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Toronto Eesti Maja juhatuse tähelepanule on toodud rahahanke aktsioon Eesti Maja katuse ümberehitamise projekti nimel.

Juhatusele on ka jõudnud teave, et rahalisi annetusi on tehtud selle nimel Toronto Eesti Ühispanga juures olevale kontole arusaamisega, et need annetused on määratud katuse ümberehitamiseks. Katuse ümberehituse projekt pole heaks kiidetud Toronto Eesti Maja juhatuse poolt ja eelnimetatud panga konto pole Eesti Maja halduses.

Loodame mõistvale suhtumisele, et kuni Toronto Eesti Maja tuleviku plaanid on kinnitatud, on kapitaalremont välistatud. Töötame usinasti tuleviku strateegia kallal ning loodame juba väga peatselt meie kogukonda kurssi tuua mis on teoksil olnud. Selleks on vaja reservi varuda abi ja toetust.


The Board of the Estonian House in Toronto has become aware of a fundraising effort that is seeking to raise funds for a major renovation of the Estonian House roof.

We understand that some people have made donations to a bank account at the Toronto Estonian Credit Union with the understanding they will be applied to this major roof renovation. This is not an initiative that has been approved by the Board nor is this account under the control of the Estonian House Board.

While we always welcome donations made to the Estonian House directly, we hope you can understand that we cannot at this time commit to undertaking a major capital roof repair. As we have previously reported, we are currently working through our future strategy. Stay tuned for an announcement very soon on how you can help.



AS Toronto Eesti Maja juhatus / The Board of Directors of the Estonian House in Toronto Ltd.


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+21 #1 Sad 2017-02-14 23:29
It's very disappointing that the Eesti Maja tulevik group, whose members don't participate in any community activities, are attacking a grassroots attempt to save them from their own mountain of failure. It seems that whenever anyone comes up with a reasonable plan or idea, these people attack and marginalize. Their actions are splitting the community and causing serious financial problems (just ask the bank). They lost the confidence of our community years ago. They should resign for the good of all and allow active members who care about the community to save the House and the organizations that use it. Could the adults please step in and take over??
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-18 #2 RLT 2017-02-15 10:43
Re: SAD.
Who's attacking and marginalizing whom? Your false generalizations above are more negative and divisive than anything mentioned in the announcement from Eesti Maja.
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+19 #3 Juhaidii 2017-02-15 18:00
It takes a special kind of ego/personality to tell community volunteers who fix the House and raise tens of thousands to make repaits to go-fly-a-kite!
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+21 #4 mida näitab 2017-02-15 20:38
What this fundraising effort showed was that many in the community have faith in the Eesti Maja Sõprade group, that they will use the funds wisely, but not in the Eesti Maja juhatus.
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-21 #5 RLT 2017-02-16 19:32
The fact that Eesti Maja had to issue an announcement to distance itself from this fundraising initiative demonstrates how (intentionally? ) ambiguous the campaign is.

No plan, no E.M. board approval, funds required urgently to secure a mystery grant. The "sõbrad" seem to have done some good work volunteering around the Eesti Maja, but this roof thing seems a bit half-cocked... and unfortunately based on the comments its starting to stink of bitter community politics. That good "faith" they've earned could easily evaporate if people believe they were duped.
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+7 #6 To RLT 2017-02-16 20:41
Looks like you and the Eesti Maja Tulevik group have all taken lessons from Trump about how to bully others into silence and deflect against others. In this case - shamelessly against a group of volunteers who are picking up the pieces that have been shattered by the Estonian House Board.
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+14 #7 Üks 2017-02-16 22:24
The huge problem here is doing everything hush-hush. Tulevikukomitee not sharing their plans openly. Too many rumours and unknowns circulating among Estos here. Some kind of promises of the fantastic solutions that up to now have failed miserably. No confidence in the next exciting announcement :-/
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-1 #8 To: MAK 2017-02-17 01:35
Ei, MAK pole siinkohal Mari-Ann Kelam, vaid kohalik isik kelle kommentaare näeme üleval. Hr. M. Adrian K. miks te ei julge oma nime all kirjutada?
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+8 #9 Mäss Majas 2017-02-17 04:00
Interesting that the Board should feel the need to renounce activity within the community (whom they claim to represent). The volunteers display the intent to ameliorate Eesti Maja, all whilst the Board is busy "working through [their] future strategy" - which, if you ask me, is more ambiguous than applying for a public grant to fix a leaky roof.

A word of wisdom to the Board - remember who you are representing. If a group of volunteers have begun to garner considerable funds from the community, then your problem isn't a grant application, it isn't the volunteers, and it can't be fixed through an announcement in the paper. It appears as if you're continuing to lose the trust of the community.
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0 #10 ingrid 2017-02-17 09:30
The actual structure "The Estonian House" is an asset that is being mismanaged for YEARS.
I understand (through the grapevine" that it loses money every year.

Yet very little has been done to MARKET the spaces we have. Except for now someone in management (actually not clear on management structure because it is not clear what are the actual duties of the paid employees... ) has decided in some weird moment of confusion to install sinks into the Crystal Hall to the school that operates in the Estonian house for a fee (hearsay again) for about the cost of renting it out 3 times...
That space is perfect for funeral gathering and we all know we have weekly deaths in our community...

The Estonian House has ZERO marketing... use kijiji or craig's list or other FREE sites to post photos and details of our spaces that are available... ZERO EFFORT. I asked for a price list and the date on is 2015 ... geez ... the paid staff must be soooo busy they have not time to update the price list?

Coffee shop is empty... why are we not listing that as space that can rented.. has a kitchen, has a bar... my family has rented it for birthday parties over the years... instead it is locked up and not even offered as a space to rent... why?

If we sell (and yes I know the majority voting rights will determine that... us minions with our handful of votes will not have an REAL say in anything... wihich is sad since the board who have no experience in asset management are probaly spending all their board time trying to sell the Estonian House... which is STILL a vibrant HUB for our children and seniors.

Please Board.. you have an assest. It is in all of our best interests that it is maintained. Can you just picture roof failure... where water pours in or something collapes.. what will the insurance company do then.... can we say "rate hike".

Tons of incentive programs to REDUCE COSTS available.
NO ONE has looked into that...

Sorry board.. you do not have my vote of confidence.

Ponder the future of Estonian House but do NOT forget to protect the asset.
There is more VALUE for an asset That is maintained.
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+1 #11 ingrid 2017-02-17 09:49
so a few minutes of surfing the web... I found a few links to incentive programs.

These are REAL solutions.. and if you had the community support you MIGHT even get Estoanians to DONATE to help you will reducing costs at the Estonian House.

https://www.enbridgegas.com/businesses/energy-management/commercial/incentives-and-services/run-it-right.aspx

https://www.enbridgegas.com/businesses/energy-management/commercial/incentives-and-services/condensing-boiler-program.aspx

http://www.torontohydro.com/sites/electricsystem/electricityconservation/businessconservation/pages/retrofitprogram.aspx

http://www.torontohydro.com/sites/electricsystem/electricityconservation/businessconservation/Pages/ForCommercialBuildings.aspx

http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=a297ba32db7ce310VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD

Reducing costs... means more profit... really ask for help in upgrading the systems and you will find the building will be much more cost effective.

Esto house continues to be a hub... I saw washing machines and dryers and fridges running...
NONE are energy efficient... at the very least.. unplug the dryer and replace the friges with energy star appliances... do something other than allowing out heritage building fall into disrepair
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-6 #12 RLT 2017-02-17 10:11
To: To RLT
Bullied into silence? Don't get unhinged. I don't think my concerns were unreasonable. I was just fishing for answers from both "sides" and it looks like the ball is rolling:

http://www.eestielu.com/et/organizations/230-eesti-maja-estonian-house/6309-clarification-from-the-eesti-maja-sobrad
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+21 #13 Oi! 2017-02-17 12:46
According to the Friends of EM, the board approved this activity. Why is the board condemning the volunteers and their fundraising initiative here?
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0 #14 nosey 2017-02-22 21:10
Shouldn't EKN be involved in this dispute?

Reviewing an article on www.eesti.ca from 21 Nov 2015

EKN - Estonian Central Council in Canada Mission
a) Unite Canadian Estonians to pursue joint activities and goals

How is the Eesti Maja less important than anything else at this point in time?
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